Dampers and lock-up clutch

Damper having a first rotating member (10) having an axis of rotation (80) and is rotatable, and a second rotary member (30, 50) via an elastic member (11, 15, 61, 65) relative to the first rotary member (10 ) is rotatable about the axis of rotation (80), as well as a Axialrichtungsstutzabschnitt (10e, 30e, 50e) to which the first rotating member (10) and the second rotating part (50 30) are supported in the direction of the axis of rotation (80) against each other, and characterized by a radial direction the supporting portion (41, 39s), which is arranged on a circumference whose distance from the rotation axis (80) substantially equal to the distance of the Axialrichtungsstutzabschnitts (10e, 30e, 50e) is the axis of rotation (80), and to which the first rotating part ( 10) and the second rotating part (30, 50) are supported in the radial direction against each other, wherein the Axialrichtungsstutzabschnitt (10e, 30e, 50e) and the radial direction support portion (41, 39s) at a periphery within the outer periphery of the first rotating part (10) and in each case alternately arranged at substantially equal intervals ...